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MrsMo
8th March 2007, 07:20
A new law in France makes it a crime -- punishable by up to five years in prison -- for anyone who is not a professional journalist to film real-world violence and distribute the images on the Internet.It seems that in an attempt to stop violent teens from assaulting people (often strangers) and then posting videos of the attack, the French government has decided to make it illegal for anyone except professional journalists to film acts of violence.

There is a phrase in the news article that I find particularly chilling: Experts said the law is the first of its kind in Europe.Does this mean that Europeans can expect other countries to enact laws like this one? This is the kind of heavy-handed, draconian law I would expect to see coming out of totalitarian governments like China - and I would be surprised to see it even then.

The date the French parliament passed this law is especially ironic too because it was passed on the anniversary of the Rodney King beating, which was caught on amateur video. I remember government officals around the world weighing in on how terrible the US was and what a good thing there was someone around to catch the police in this act of brutality - especially the French government official, who seemed particularly smug about how much better France was than the US.

Here's the link to the whole story: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/08/france.violence.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

What do you think? Have the French lost their minds; will this law be repealed or revised; will other governments try to follow suit and pass equally draconian laws? Will the French people take this laying down or will the regular person finally raise up and demand some common sense from their government officials? (I don't have much hope for that last one.) And finally, will YOU be visiting France in the near future?

Apathy
8th March 2007, 12:57
Have the French lost their minds..?

Didn't know they had any to lose, what with all the wine.

Typical lazy Frenchies. There's no attempt to deal with the base problem. I blame Marie Antoinette - let them eat cake and so on.

(Before you start yes I know she was Austrian, but she married a Frenchman.)

SpoofedEx
8th March 2007, 14:13
Hmmm how are we supposed to read the "and".
Is it illegal to either record it or post it on the internet (wouldn't make sense, since you'd have broken a law already).
The way I read it (and I think it's supposed to be read) is that it is illegal to record videos and after this, post it on the internet. So the real crime is to post violent stuff on the web?
(As a sidenote: what about giving your tapes to a friend, letting him publish it?)

If I'm right the way I read it, I don't find it too disturbing. There are cases, of course, in which it's not a bad thing to post stuff like that on the internet. For instance, an amateur-journalism. However, usually, the once who upload it do so for sick people who like to watch people getting beaten to death.
So think about this: is it bad to upload violent movies to the internet? It might not, of course. But then again, it might. And I think, in most cases, it is.
So not too strange law IMHO.

Kitz E Kat
8th March 2007, 14:26
Yeah it looks like that to me Spoofed, it's a little blunt of a weapon, but I can see the intention, to stop people putting up voilent video on the internet.
It's a problem over here to an extent, with this craze for "happy slapping", I don't have a problem with someone trying to stop this kinda crap goin on.

In general though , someone is goin to have to do something about this voilent content that is going up on youtube, I hear there is a video of a dog killing a cat tied to a post, drug dealers killing rival members, people going around beating the shit out of strangers ( a girl was badly beatin up over here, the video put up on youtube). It's all goin down a pretty nasty street, snuff movies where the stuff of legend, not now it seems ......


Meanwhile, poor Marie Antoinette!
The lady got a lot of bad press, and without foundation it would seem :
http://www.newsandevents.utoronto.ca/bios/askus40.htm

SyntaxHeir
9th March 2007, 19:34
I got an idea... how about we outlaw voilence and leave the Internet out of it entirely?

Kitz E Kat
13th March 2007, 15:32
I got an idea... how about we outlaw voilence and leave the Internet out of it entirely?
I think they tried that, not a great success !