Daremo's Den - Muslim's need to grow up!

Kitz E Kat

3rd February 2006, 14:09

First I am rather angry, I may use some F words :-)

A newspaper in Denmark printed a cartoon of Allah, with a turban shaped like a bomb, heee heeee funny :-)
Well , our holy muslim brother's who waste no time chopping people's head's off don't , it seem's have a sense of humor.
So this fucker on the radio this morning, a "muslim spokesman" is telling me that I have the freedom to free speech, but we can't make fun of muslim's!
Fuck you, you kill, torture, all in the name of "god" but a simple joke will bring allah into disrespect? What class of a fucked up god it that I ask myself.

This lot are in the dark age's they are throwing stone's at the Danish embassy, they have withdrawn ambassadors, they are having protest's all over Europe because of this , Ha !

It's OK for them to mock and burn effigy's and flag's of Western nation's, but we can't print a simple cartoon of some dodgy fucker that really don't exist in the first place.
We go to their shit hole of a fucked up country and we must respect their way's, they come here, and we must respect their way's.
No mention of them respecting OUR way's,fucker's want it everyway.

I think , I may just be starting to become just a little bit racist :-)

Just a little bit !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4676632.stm

The offending cartoon : http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/worldviews/2006/02/01/Cartoon%25201.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail%3Fblogid%3D15%26entry_id%3D2796&h=170&w=124&sz=8&tbnid=Eo9CoNQzD4SKiM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=68&hl=en&start=11&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDanish%2BMuslim%2Bcartoon%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s%26sa%3DG

Rikku

3rd February 2006, 14:54

Mwahahaha, welcome to my world Kitz...lets draw some more damn cartoons and burn some Allah pictures! fuck yeah, start a revolution!

.UrBaNn

3rd February 2006, 15:22

Are there any other muslims on this forum :eek: ?

They do protest because its neccesary to protect their own existence, it makes no sense if they just stay as stone there and act nothing.

I can't really understand you guys on religion flaming!
If you can't find a way to live with it drop it..you're not forced to believe on Allah , neither was I.
But so far I haven't found any other solution of our kind where we came.
Its just another fact I do believe on Allah.

God created us!!If you know else..lemme know I may change my mind but that's really hardly.
Don't come with the stupid fact that we are made from Monkeys.

Kitz E Kat

3rd February 2006, 17:03

Well Urban, I do respect you, and what you believe in, but I have no respect for someone that tell's me that I HAVE to believe in what you believe in.
Let me ask you a question, do you respect my right not to believe in allah ? Do you respect my right not to believe in religion ? Do you respect my right to believe in what I want to believe in ? If yes to above I commend you.
If no to any of above, then I am very sorry, I do not have respect for those that do not respect the believe's of others.

You can't have it everyway, from what I can see muslim's want everyone to respect their religion, but they have NO, I will say that again in big letter's NO, respect for others.

In the word's of Radical Ed, " dis is not correct" , in my word's "this is bullshit" pure and simple.

I have no problem with Muslim's, except that it would seem that they have a problem with me.
That's a fucking problem ain't it ? You tell me why I should have any respect for someone that do NOT respect me, and want's me dead cos fucking allah said so..

It's bullshit , sorry , we have Polish people here , Russian's, Latvian's, you name it , I like them, they are nice people, they don't wan't me dead cos I do not support their theory on life.

Muslim's have the cheek to kill innocent people in the name of Allah, fuck that shit, now you wan't to kill cos of a fuckin cartoon .
You broke me, I now efing have no time for efing muslims.
Fuck allah and his virgins.
Fuckin idiots.
Sorry but that's the way I feel , if being a muslim mean's killing people because they dont support the muslim way, then really , fuck you all. It's all you deserve.
Go throw stone's at people, behead people, fuck, stone them to death, why not, allah say's it's all good "you get virgin after death" this is sick shit.....

Me, I believe that you have the right to do what you want to do, just so long as it do not hurt others.

It's called "tollerance" possibly not a word in the muslim dictonary.

Sorry if I offend , for that is not my intention, but I have been well offended, I've been told I can not in any way offend allah, but he can burn me , my house , my family, my friend's, and the rest, down, that's Ok, cos fuckin allah said it's Ok...
And you get seven virgin's for doin that , hell , who could turn down such an offer .......

You think this is OK ???????????
You think this is normal ???????
Wanna tell that to the people that died in 9/11 ????

Huh , the sicko fuckers that did that are now sitting beside allah with seven virgin's each, for that is their prize for their deed's, according to the muslim faith....

Rikku

4th February 2006, 00:57

Fucking muslim shit! What a load of complete bollocks! "Its cool, I can kill you, the invisible man told me so!" What the fuck do they feed you muslim scum at school? Youre all whacked up on LSD or some shit man...It's about time yall learned some respect or the USMC are gonna be all over you :p

DEATH TO THE MUSLIM SCUM!

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Kitz E Kat

4th February 2006, 01:22

Another "muslim spokeman" is on the radio telling me that "the act of printing this cartoon is a far more voilent act than mulsim's burning a US flag" .....

I give up !

Rikku

4th February 2006, 03:39

Haha, how is that more violent than setting fire to a countrys flag? I say we draw some more...and paint them on USMC jets :p

.UrBaNn

4th February 2006, 06:48

It seems we are not talkin about muslims anymore.
There are alot of assholes out there who pretend to be deep muslims and who kills in the name of God..well thats totally Bullshit, They are just another crap from US who wanted to be equal with what they did to muslims.

I still do respect you if you don't believe on Allah ..its freewill dude.
But you do too right?

As I said

..you're not forced to believe on Allah , neither was I.

About 'tolerance' as far as i know its the first word on muslims alphabet..

Peace dude..

Daremo

4th February 2006, 07:58

Ok -- Lets chill a bit here.

I know and work daily with some really nice Muslims. They do not condone the actions of the radical terrorists who kill in the name of Allah.

Let's set the record straight -- practically every religeon has commited atrocities in the name of their diety. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all included in that list. That is historical fact, not BS.

The acts of zealots do not reflect the morality of the whole.

The fact that many Muslims are protesting this cartoon is understandable. The way this is getting blown up out of proportion is NOT understandable. If someone pissed on the flag of your nation, your Holy Book or in your beer (Kitz) -- You'd be righteously upset. You would protest, sometimes with a punch to the snoot of the person doing the pissing.

However what we have now is not a protest, it's a demand (by a minority) to cease pissing altogether. This would eventually cause a lot of full bladders and after enough time would result in clandestine pissing. The pissing would not stop, it would just be quieter and done in a sneaky fashion so you could not identify the pisser.

The point here is that Muslims, Christians and Jews are not bad people. Their religeon is not bad. The terrorists, exrtremists and zealots ARE bad - very bad.

Let's put this back on track TERRORISTS MUST DIE! It is the only coin they understand, so pay them in it. These particular terrorists seem to believe that they are rewarded by dying -- so fuck, yes! Let's reward the little shits and get back to our beer.

However, leave the good Muslim, Jew, Christian who is TOLERANT of others, who only wants to live a good life and raise his family in peace alone. They don't deserve getting the blame for a few assholes.

But what the fuck do I know -- after all, I'm Nobody.

Rikku

4th February 2006, 08:43

Allright men! Change of plan, we kill the terrorists...the extremists, and leave the others to what they belive, aslong as they keep it to themselves who gives a fuck!

They do not condone the actions of the radical terrorists who kill in the name of Allah.

As in...Radical Ed?

Allright men, time to reward these assholes! Ooo-rah!

Kitz E Kat

4th February 2006, 09:37

Within second's of an implement of free speach, a newspaper, in a democratic country, printing a cartoon, the whole muslim community is in uproar.
Take's a lot longer for those same people to condem the action's of fellow muslim's who kill for allah, the few that do condem such actions, and on the very rare time's that they do.

I do not hear the muslim community in uproar over the killing of western people.

As individuals, yeah there has to be some good honest decent muslim people.
Perhaps they should stand up and be counted......
Cos all I hear are stone age idiot's telling me what I can and can't read in my non muslim country.

GrowMoreWeed

5th February 2006, 05:51

Ooo I do love a heated discussion! Now I'm in no way racist (I think Rikku has this covered ;) BUT I think Kitz has a point. The British (and to some extent the Amercans) are very tolerant. So tolerant in fact, that we tolerate others intolerance!

I heard a snippet from the news this morning. Some muslims are calling for all who offend Islam to be killed. Now personally, I find killing people because they don't share your point of view quite offensive! Does that mean I have the right to kill the people who killed the person who offended Islam?

It's OK for them to mock and burn effigy's and flag's of Western nation's, but we can't print a simple cartoon of some dodgy fucker that really don't exist in the first place.
We go to their shit hole of a fucked up country and we must respect their way's, they come here, and we must respect their way's.
No mention of them respecting OUR way's,fucker's want it everyway.
I'm sorry to say it but it does seem that these people want it both ways. Sorry but that ain't gonna happen. If you live in a muslim country and someone is blatantly disrespecting your religeon and way of life or stirring up hatred, fair enough, do something about it. But when someone in a non-muslim country express' their right to free speech, fuck right off! Muslim's cannot tell anyone what they can or cannot say anymore than anyone else can. Just like America cannot play "World Police" and force everybody into democracy. It's just not cricket!

Kitz E Kat

5th February 2006, 08:24

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4682560.stm

I rest my case :-)

GrowMoreWeed

5th February 2006, 08:38

So next time we see someone burning our flag on the news, do we go and burn their embassy here? We could say God said it was ok :armata_PD

Kitz E Kat

5th February 2006, 09:30

It would be pretty neat if all this ended without someone getting killed over all this crap.....

Rikku

5th February 2006, 13:07

Fuck it makes me so damn anrgy, I hope they all get fucking raped and tortured, sad worthless shitfaces...and that means you Ed! Fucking scrotum!

suicidal angel

5th February 2006, 14:42

tolerance is why ppl die. we constantly put up with others bullshit over and over and over. then we wait till were about to explode to do something. i say fuck tolerance fuck muslims, fuck christians, fuck catholics, fuck them all. not just the religiuos ppl but every mother fucker who is not me doesnt know me doesnt give a fuck about me and wants to tell me whats right and wrong or tell me what to do. this may sound harsh and its not meant in a way to single one person out or dis someones religion but like i said,

FUCK THEM ALL

GrowMoreWeed

6th February 2006, 04:08

FUCK THEM ALL

Check out Mr. Angry! :)

Rikku

6th February 2006, 09:07

Fuck yeah, Im on "Mr Nasty's" side!

Anyone any good at drawing prophets?

PhoenIXHighToweR

6th February 2006, 10:57

whoever said "AMERICANS AND BRITS ARE TOLERANT"
I totally agree.
to prove our points.....i'll list a few tolerable acts in chronological order.

1.the church of england.(started so a leader could get divorced, im sure millions will follow at a whim though..because of ..."god")
2. the pilgrims (fled england because of religous persecution)
3. the indians (what a better way to show our friendship to the people who saved us from starvation than to give them gifts RIDDLED with smallpox.)
4. african slaves....(do i even need to explain??).
5. The KKK (25million + members in "the roaring 20's").
6. segregation. To this day (february 2006) there are still schools in the U.S. that have segregated proms/social events/etc..
6.WWII Japaneese internment camps. Many people to this day DENY the fact that during WWII the U.S. government horded hundreds of thousands of japanese americans into camps in california(then starved and overworked them to death). these so called "enemies" could not be trusted because.....they were from japan... how could they be loyal to america????? HOWEVER hitler was an asshole....and when he did this...it was disgusting....go figure.

there you have it people........TOLERANCE...isnt it beautiful.

BTW....what do you think the "majority" of americans/brits would do....if a middle-eastern journalist drew pictures of someone wiping there ass with pages from the bible....or someone drew one of those little calvin stickers with him pissing on jesus????
PEOPLE WOULD GO FUCKING APE SHIT......the "truly" religous would anyway.(it's a matter of respect)

http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/comparison_charts/islam_judaism_christianity.htm

Kitz E Kat

6th February 2006, 14:10

Some good point's PheonIX !
First I would agree with you on the point's you well make about tolerance.
There was little shown in the past , by either the US or the UK.
However your list is pretty historical, and today it's pretty fair to say that both the US and the UK are good place's to live for all people that choose to live there, from a tolerance perspective, perfect, no, but pretty good.

The Irish suffered from the "No Black's No Dogs, No Irish" mentality in the UK some year's back, today, this is not the case, both the English and the Irish have , thankfully, grown up, and can happily live together.

It's very safe to say that the West is a very tolerant place today.

Your second main point, regarding the publication of a defamitory cartoon against, say Chatolic's does not hold any water.

Let's say such an event happened, the newspaper's would publish strong editorial's, the radio talk show's would make hay, by late afternoon, the increase in the price of gas would overshadow the event, and become the talking point.
We would not do this : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4684652.stm

We would not burn down the Iranian embassy, we would not see several people killed, we would not hit the street's in large ( several thousand) and burn flag's , effigy's and anything else we could set alight.
The Iranian people living here would not be warned to leave the country quickly for fear of their lives.
No, we would just talk about it in the media, and at work, and in the bars.
Nobody dead, no building's set alight, and nobody living in fear of their live's.

My contention that "Muslim's need to grow up" still stand's !

Next :-)

Daremo

6th February 2006, 15:37

Some years back, a young Irish lass by the name of Sinaed O'Conner tore up a picture of the Pope on US National TV. There were nasty letters written, much talk and grumbling, but no one was killed, no embassy's burned down and no riots in the street.

Need I say more?

Daremo

6th February 2006, 16:07

One more thing that I really gotta say....

Jesus, Moses, Budda, Mohammed, Satan and even God himself have been guest stars on the cartoon show "South Park" here in the US.

NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED

Heck Jesus and Santa Clause (Father Christmas to you Euro dudes) even had a fist fight over the meaning of Christmas

NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED

So every major religeon has been diss'd, with some regularity, on South Park

NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED

GrowMoreWeed

7th February 2006, 07:01

6. segregation. To this day (february 2006) there are still schools in the U.S. that have segregated proms/social events/etc..
Is this really true? Surely that's illegal even under US law?

Rikku

7th February 2006, 12:44

PhoenIXHighToweR

8th February 2006, 18:18

OK, maybe MOST people just don't give a fuck when it comes to religious insults. but i said that "the truly religious" would be offended.

howard stern wasn't put on the fcc's black list for the hell of it. nor were video game ratings enacted to protect kids from "mario and luigi". the die hards (pat robertson the 700 club, which is one of my favorites) would tear that shit apart and call for a assinations, (like when he said we should kill hugo chavez).

my point was that their are extremists on both sides, everywhere...and though some don't kill and behead...and blow shit up...mental brainwashing is just as bad...(and is used to convince people to blow shit up).

ALSO........our media.....lets us hear what they think we should....show us what they think we should see etc.... (im not saying that muslims aren't going crazy over this) but our media has ways of "twisting" things to the likes of their owners.

P.S. http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/05/12/separate.proms.ap/

cnn, says its "dying" but if it's still going on today...something is still wrong

Radical Ed

10th February 2006, 14:05

allah make no harm 4 u only good mr rikki make no good 4 only diss allah make no kill only make life is bad 2 make bad pleeese only make good 4 people allah make 4give

Rikku

10th February 2006, 16:31

FUCK YOU! "Allah" is making you crazy fuck ups kill all kinds of folk! Muppet!

suicidal angel

12th February 2006, 21:28

radical ed, damn u give me a headache. and as far as i know, being that i am an american, there are not segregated events in schools. like i said as far as i know. and rdical ed, how about you dont speak unless u can make me understand what u are saying. im about ready to call in a cia codebreaker to decipher what the hell it is that u are trying to say.

Arlene

19th February 2006, 17:08

i am baaaack...ready to get a little angry at me?

I think that they have a right to be pissed, I would be. Here we have a people who, well all they have is their faith in God and their Prophet, we have a people who live in war and poverty in sub human conditions where a lot of us would fail to thrive. All they have is their religion and faith that something better is waiting for them. Depictions of their Proph. or any religious images are wrong in their tradion as it was in one point in the life of christianity, the iconoclasts and the war of too or not too depict jesus or other saints and such? hmm, yep remember reading a whole lot of folk having heads and what not chopped off...We seem to forget that Islam is a young religious tradition and right now is on the same growth level as christianity was in the Byzantine empire a few hunderd years ago. Any faith and religion is something that we need to respect, as for Islam, their proph. was a man that we can all learn a lesson from, he adored his first wife and treated her like a saint because she pushed him to tell the world of what he was told, he entrusted his teachings to his daughters and fought to unite groups of people who had no faith/community that wanted them. When christianity and judaism and tradional local faiths were being snotty and rude, like that dink click we all know of in the school yard when we were young, this man helped unite a group who had no faith to believe in or a community that even wanted them, community be friends, family or faith is something we all need or we would be some guy sitting in a shed planning to blow shit up. it is also a faith that has stood the test of time, respect it for that. I am not saying you have to agree with it or believe it, but just like everyones odd ball relative, you still have to respect them for what they actually have to offer the world and last time I checked everyone had a lesson that they can teach everyone else.

As for religion and this image, at the moment there are a lot of islamic followers who have nothing but their faith, respect that or suffer a very large group of pissed off people who really do have nothing else left to loose. because I am all about the anger, good for them for getting pissed right off, I remember a time when my people got like that and christianity, the catholics and orthodox should be so lucky to have followers that believe that strong in their faith. Last time i checked, they are on a vast decline. Respect, and yes this goes for all faiths as we do not know what is waiting for us when we die. Besides, god gave us the political leaders to make fun off, leave faith and religion alone.

Arlene

Rikku

20th February 2006, 09:44

Ok...I still think they all deserve to die...

TreeFrog

20th February 2006, 13:12

Hey Rikku.. We all deserve to die. It is the only destiny we can all be certain of. It is the heritage we have for being alive.

Some feel it is worth meeting with pride and in their eyes honour too. Others cower in sick beds waiting for it to stop but too scared to look at it.

When you see a people that know they will go straight to heaven if they die defending god.. Well it will certainly help that defence wont it.

Piss them off and they will get pissed.. that is the way it works right?

Stand behind a horse and slap its ass and you is hitting one very patient horse if it dont kick you right in the nuts/chest/head or even all of them one after the other.
Hey its a little off topic but I understand that one is more likely to get kicked to death by a donkey then to die in an aeroplane crash.

Seems there are a good few people around these days that don't seem to understand the does and donts about standing around the back end of donkeys.

Laters

Kitz E Kat

20th February 2006, 13:27

Seems there are a good few people around these days that don't seem to understand the does and donts about standing around the back end of donkeys.

Laters
Most people never saw a donkey in real life, let alone stood behind one !

Good post Arlene, I am working on my reply, beer is still too warm to drink it , gimme an hour or so :-)

Rikku

20th February 2006, 13:32

Muslims (extremists mostly) = Waste of Space (a.k.a good target practice...maybe we could get some at the local range?)

Kitz E Kat

20th February 2006, 14:13

Muslims (extremists mostly) = Waste of Space (a.k.a good target practice...maybe we could get some at the local range?)

Don't go saying shit like that down at the range, you may find yourself talking to the local plod ( that's the cop's for you NA dude's ) !

I wonder is it any coincidence that by and large most ( if not all ) Muslim country's are run by totaly corrupt government's.
Arlene correctly point's out that these people don't really have anything , yet all these country's are stinking rich.
Iran, Iraq, shit Saudi Arabia, are all stinkin rich , we ( in Ireland) have jack shit in the way of natural resourses, but all these Muslim country's have load's of oil, and load's of money.Yet we don't have a fraction of the poverty that Muslim country's have.

What give's ......

Would the interest of the average Joe in the average Muslim country not be better served by investing his anger at the government rather than the author of a silly cartoon.
They burn down and kill in the name of Allah, but do nothing for their own family's, they don't burn down the government building's in the name of their own family's future, rather leave them in poverty, but protect the image of Allah????

Sorry, but I still contend that Muslim's need to grow up.
Next ........

Rikku

20th February 2006, 14:37

As the late great Seth Putnam once said...

You fucking towelhead
You wear a towel on your head, you fucking towelhead
I hate women, you do too
But you have a mustache, you fucking towelhead

Arlene

20th February 2006, 16:24

I love this:

They prob. dont ripe down the public buildings because of fear, because once more they hope that their leaders are true religious people and have hope that they will help their people....they have yet to learn the lessons of the west that the government is a dick that is only out to help him/her self. Why has no one slapped bush for being an ass, slapped tony and tell him to please stop blowing bush and get some damn balls, to actually get angry and stop local child prostitution in canada, to help and feed the hungry and homless in out communities.

I have recently found myself attached to a cop...one who is decorated from the army too...man is 290 pounds, looks like a mean ass and knows his body fat...yet I am working in the inner city school and HE is scared to walk down the street to get to my school because of gangs and crime. HE a man who has murdered people for his government is scared of a skinny ass native kid. Why? Why be scared? But he is. I know that my role is to help and I have to walk down that street to the school, tell the little gangster kids to grow the fuck up and head on into work, alone. Why because I have too and yet there are a lot of people who are too scared to do that. Those are the same who are too scared to go to government debates and tell the wanna be politicians to grow up and yet they bitch about the situation, too scared to tell the priest to grow up...just too scared and some want to hold onto the thought of good, that these people will do good and no one really needs to correct them, hell they wont listen to 'me'. Yet these people hold on to their faith and culture like a freaking viper because they have placed their hope in these tools. In the end all will be well, right.

Also, reason two the cop is scared, reason 2 why people see islam as evil, well because we believe what the media feeds us, like it or not these images slither into our brains and we have a hard time shaking them out. Just because we see what someone wants us to see does not mean that it is true, it is but a part of the truth. Like being an archeologist and finding something you believe to be the true cross or the grail, we have a habit of seeing what we want too and making the peices fit according to out philosophies. We know of select groups getting violent, but what about the old woman who prays and is sad about all of this? The one who looks like our grandmothers in our churches and synag. Is it right to attack their beliefs because of a select group? I mean we all know Mormans are nuts and yet no one has made rude cartoons of them attacking JC though their faith....Faith in god is a wonderful thing, something I certianly do not have and I have a great respect for those who do. Just as it was wrong for south park to show an image of the Virgin Mary bleeding out of her arse, it is wrong to do this. Those are traditions, religious traditions, respect the tradition, no one is asking you to respect the people, but faith is faith, god is god and karma is karma, either way something is going to get the cartoonists ass for not thinking about the after affects of his actions. I mean that one is just logic...lets poke the angry people with nothing left to loose with a sharp stick...kinda like lets kick the angry pitbull theory....

OK I am late for work...gotta go and will edit this later.
Cheers
Arlene

Daremo

21st February 2006, 12:04

@Rikku -- Now, boy, I know you -- I know you don't really mean it when you say: "...they all deserve to die...".

Sure, many that live deserve death, but many have died that deserve to live. If you cannot grant life then be very, very careful who you chose to condemn.

Also, would you kill children? Babies? At what point do you look into the mirror and the monster that you fear looks back out at you?

Sure, I've killed a lot of people, in a lot of different ways. But here's the difference: They were actively engaged in trying to kill me at the same time. We had all chosen to play 'War' together and had chosen up sides.

This isn't the same. There are a handful of wacked-out nut-jobs who're killing indescriminatly in order to get their own way. These are mad dogs and they deserve to die in order to save innocent women and children. Killing innocent women and children in retaliation is lunacy. Find and kill the mad dogs, hunt them down and execute them immediately with no mercy.

A REAL Soldier/Sailor/Airman/Marine is a protector of civilization. His job is to protect women and children, not kill them. He must stand in the twilight, facing the darkness, so that you and your children may live in the light.

Rikku

21st February 2006, 14:43

Ok ok, you know me better than I know myself again...just make them all fuck off outta my face ok...aslong as they have absolutley NOTHING to do with me thats fine...

Kitz E Kat

21st February 2006, 15:03

I love this:

Arlene
Yeah so do I !

Sorry Arlene I don't buy that bit about fear, these dude's fear nothing, not even death.
I also don't buy the bit about them thinking that the government will some day help out, that imply's a level of stupidity on these people that I don't think they have.
They see the riches all around them, but do nothing about it.
You see my point really is, if they have nothing, it's their fault, not mine.

They see fit to kill for Allah, but watch the immense wealth go to the government, and do nothing about it.
So to say that they have nothing , which then justify's their behaviour is an erroneous one at best.
They have plenty , they don't see fit to take it.

Regarding poverty in Canada, the US, the UK or Ireland for that matter, it's quite small , it should be nill, but it's not on a scale like in Muslim country's.
We do get to tell Tony Blair what to do with himself, come an election.
The Tory government got told to go f*** itself in the UK many year's ago, and ain't been back since.
Child prostitution is universal, and happen's in Muslim country's also.
Someone here say's it's more or less legal in Saudi Araiba.

So those argument's don't hold no water, in my book....

Your boyfriend's fear is not really an issue, it's a policing issue.
That's about the tax dollar and how much your prepred to pay in taxes to fund policing policy.
You pay more tax, you get more police, you get less crime.
Nobody want's to pay more tax............

With respect to "respecting" other's belief's does that mean we can't take the piss out of devil worshipper's ? or white witches ? .
Do we respect all group's or just some, which one's ??? Who make's the decision as to which group should be respected and which not.
Humor is a part of society, so far 50 people are dead cos of a joke.
The joke , printed in September 2005, in Denmark for the consumption of people in a small region of a small country to review.

Can not a small local paper print a cartoon without consulting every religous group, political organization, every "right's" based group, just in case it may offend someone on some ground that they may hold to be of value to them?

It's the only pratical way to ensure that nobody is offended, but Monday's paper may not arrive till sometime next year :-)
So please be patient!

Sorry I still contend that Muslim's need to grow up!
Next ..........

SyntaxHeir

22nd February 2006, 05:15

Wooo hooo!!

Kitz is on a roll in this thread. All except for that bit about more taxes and more police.

Otherwise, charge on my man!

Rikku

22nd February 2006, 09:13

With respect to "respecting" other's belief's does that mean we can't take the piss out of devil worshipper's ? or white witches ?

Hey! There aint nothing wrong with devil worshipers and white witches! Infact some of the stuff in The Satanic Bible makes alot of sense!

SyntaxHeir

23rd February 2006, 05:35

Hey! There aint nothing wrong with devil worshipers and white witches! Infact some of the stuff in The Satanic Bible makes alot of sense!

Take a look at these eleven "rules" and ask yourself with how many
you'd agree. I count 6 out of 11. Some fella in the British Royal
Navy fought to get this recognized as an official "religion".

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want
to hear them.

3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden
to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully
to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having
called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers
you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

These are Anton Levey's 11 rules of Earth, taken from the Satanic Bible.

Rikku

23rd February 2006, 09:31

Oh yea for sure, theres alot of sense in it!

suicidal angel

24th February 2006, 03:37

how can i get a satanic bible?

duder

24th February 2006, 04:32

how can i get a satanic bible?

cost you about $8(US) plus shipping.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380015390/102-7248259-6755323?v=glance&n=283155

peace,

duder

TreeFrog

24th February 2006, 05:49

Whats wrong with the King James Version of the regular bible.?

Well it was just a question. :p

SyntaxHeir

24th February 2006, 06:50

Okay, in the interest of equal time:

The Ten Commandments
Commandments One to Four:
How To Properly Worship The Only True God First
"I am The Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."
(see also The First Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030318.htm))

Second
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I The Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep My Commandments.
(see also The Second Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030319.htm))

Third
"Thou shalt not take The Name of The Lord thy God in vain; for The Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh His Name in vain.
(see also The Third Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030320.htm))

Fourth
"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of The Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days The Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore The Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."
(see also The Fourth Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030321.htm))

Commandments Five to Ten:
How To Live In Peace With Humanity:

Fifth
"Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which The Lord thy God giveth thee."
(see also The Fifth Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030322.htm))

Sixth
"Thou shalt not kill."
(see also The Sixth Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030323.htm))

Seventh
"Thou shalt not commit adultery."
(see also The Seventh Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030324.htm))

Eighth
"Thou shalt not steal."
(see also The Eighth Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030325.htm))

Ninth
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."
(see also The Ninth Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030326.htm))

Tenth
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." (Exodus 20:2-17 KJV)
(see also The Tenth Commandment (http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030327.htm))

TreeFrog

24th February 2006, 13:13

There was 11 in the last lot.. how odd. them satanic people are greedy on the rules arnt they!

Kitz E Kat

24th February 2006, 14:16

There was 11 in the last lot.. how odd. them satanic people are greedy on the rules arnt they!

Ain't that the modus operandi of Satanism, greed !

Radical Ed

24th February 2006, 15:24

devil make 4 bad pleese make no friend wit devil

Kitz E Kat

25th February 2006, 16:27

Well to be fair to all, my other post prove's that Muslim's don't have a monopoly on riot's, I figure we all need to grow up !

Arlene

6th March 2006, 21:29

Hay kids so this ended up in my university paper...the blog has a link to the cartoon....maybe I smell another good debate?

http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2006/03/university-of-saskatchewan-jesus-oral.html (http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2006/03/university-of-saskatchewan-jesus-oral.html)

Kitz E Kat

7th March 2006, 16:12

Arlene

7th March 2006, 20:27

I just hope some of you guys post here, think it would be fun if we brought our debate and married it off to this one!
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matt138

14th February 2007, 04:33

Rikku

14th February 2007, 09:27

I'll kill none unless I really have to, part of being a soldier ;)

Kitz E Kat

14th February 2007, 09:37

Rikku

14th February 2007, 09:41

Oh there's quite a few muslim hating folk around here, not the best place if you're a muslim...

MrsMo

14th February 2007, 10:23

I dont want to even get started about muslims i wonna killem all i hope when rikku goes to iraq he kills loads of the fuckers i cant say how much id love to kill them its not posible to put it into words but oh well alot of people i noticed have said what about the children well put it this way it didnt stop hitler using kids as target practise

PS: im not suporting what hitler did but if they were all muslims i would this world would be a better place (y)
Ok, not all muslims are crazy people, the terorists are a small group using violence to control the larger group. The larger group would love it if the terrorists would dissapear off the face of the earth BUT if you go in and attack the whole group everyone will turn against you and instead of having a small group of terrorists, you will have muslims around the world planning on destroying you just so they can feel safe. Thanks, but no thanks.

Kitz E Kat

14th February 2007, 10:51

BUT if you go in and attack the whole group everyone will turn against you and instead of having a small group of terrorists, you will have muslims around the world planning on destroying you just so they can feel safe. Thanks, but no thanks.
George Bush ???

matt138

14th February 2007, 10:59

Ok, not all muslims are crazy people, the terorists are a small group using violence to control the larger group. The larger group would love it if the terrorists would dissapear off the face of the earth BUT if you go in and attack the whole group everyone will turn against you and instead of having a small group of terrorists, you will have muslims around the world planning on destroying you just so they can feel safe. Thanks, but no thanks.

yea i know that but its just i really rate all religeons and its just reading muslim stories and books thats turned me against them.

im sorry if offend anyone on this but its just my view on the subject :)

plus the fact that they seem to think they can have differnt rules to everyone els in this country.

matt138

14th February 2007, 11:01

George Bush ???

haha spot on mate!!! :)

Kitz E Kat

14th February 2007, 11:23

plus the fact that they seem to think they can have differnt rules to everyone els in this country.
Well I can tell you that really gets me pissed right off!
They apply the "when in Rome" rule when you visit their countries, but when they come over here, feck that it's their way or the highway!
It's all their way.
Classic example "The Holidays" , give me a break, it's called "Christams" not the efing holidays, but we ( you ) call it that so as not to "offend" these feckers.
Or the local councils in Britian not having christams trees so as not to "offend" these feckers.
A lady wears a short skirt in any muslim country and she runs the risk of being stoned to death.....

Dude, don't get me started on this double standard and the way the liberal politicians and media bend over backwards to accomodate these people, who tolerate nobodys views but their own.
If they cant cope with our customs then go bloody home, if you come into my house , respect it that's all I ask....
It's total bullshit....
I better quit and go for a walk to calm down :-)

matt138

14th February 2007, 11:38

Well I can tell you that really gets me pissed right off!
They apply the "when in Rome" rule when you visit their countries, but when they come over here, feck that it's their way or the highway!
It's all their way.
Classic example "The Holidays" , give me a break, it's called "Christams" not the efing holidays, but we ( you ) call it that so as not to "offend" these feckers.
Or the local councils in Britian not having christams trees so as not to "offend" these feckers.
A lady wears a short skirt in any muslim country and she runs the risk of being stoned to death.....

Dude, don't get me started on this double standard and the way the liberal politicians and media bend over backwards to accomodate these people, who tolerate nobodys views but their own.
If they cant cope with our customs then go bloody home, if you come into my house , respect it that's all I ask....
It's total bullshit....
I better quit and go for a walk to calm down :-)

spot on mate its stupid thats why i hate them so much!