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MrsMo
18th January 2006, 12:36
I have no way to veryify this story - it is just something I heard on the radio this morning - but it left me feeling outraged.
Seems a man spoke out against a speed trap in his town at a community meeting. Stood up and told everyone they should ignore the changed speed zone (there was no reason for the change - no change in road conditions, no school or hospital nearby) then fight the tickets they received in court, overloading the court docket. He hoped to convince the town council that the speed trap needed to be gotten rid of.
After the meeting, he was approached by a lawyer and a police officer, who promptly wrote the man a ticket for inciting civil disobedience!
This country is founded on the priciples of freedom of expression and the first things America's founding fathers did were acts of civil disobedience! I find it outrageous that we've passed laws against standing up in public and trying to get others to take action against something you believe is wrong. This isn't a matter of public safety or inciting to riot - he didn't incite people to use excessive speed or pick up arms and go storm the city hall - and if he's a crack pot and the speed trap actually has a use (other than raising funds for the city's coffers) the other citizens can ignore him.
So, tell me what you think...
Kitz E Kat
18th January 2006, 13:37
That's insane!
I think you guy's should stop spreading democracy around the world and enforce some at home first !
On that basis you really can't protest against anything at all, any sort of protest would possibly be civil disobedience.
He just asked people to do something, something that he nor those that he invited to do it had actually done it yet ( if you get me!), that's hardly an offense, and if it is , your f***ed !!!!!
SyntaxHeir
19th January 2006, 05:57
No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets.
- Edward Abbey
I think you guy's should stop spreading democracy around the world and enforce some at home first !
- Kitz E Kat
That's all I got to say about that.
TreeFrog
19th January 2006, 06:18
That hurts. The land of golden opotunity is one of a continuous fight for freedom.
System Anticks.
What would Forrist Gump say about that..
Daremo
19th January 2006, 08:38
Freedom is not free and the price of freedom is eternal vigilence
Kitz E Kat
19th January 2006, 13:51
Freedom is not free and the price of freedom is eternal vigilence
I agree, so who in the US is doin the "eternal vigilence" ? The Domocrat's ??
Doubt it , it's a two party system, with little between them, who on a political level is kicking up about this, saying "we will change this if you vote us in next time" .....
TreeFrog
19th January 2006, 14:58
Politickkks kicks like puppets.. surprised you even think to mention it.
Vigilance is a price.
Its higher than that though. Your freedom would cost you every string that ties you down or holds you up.
Every thread that makes your shirt must be easily pulled out and slipped off if the need be there. Vigilance is just to know that the time has come to do it.
However
The cost, the price, and the value!.. Ahh the value of freedom.
"To dance in the inner elegance of events as they unfold is the joy of freedom"
From what I can see aspiration is the only path. And liberty is what must be there to indulge aspiration. Even in the face of a tyranny one has choices.
That is freedom. Loose the tyranny and you loose that choice.
Just two cents from a simple tree frog.
GrowMoreWeed
19th January 2006, 15:36
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Security, deserve neither Liberty nor Security
Fight the F.U.D.
TreeFrog
20th January 2006, 02:27
Oh my! .. did I write that post!!
Office party.. got bored and then drunk and then.. well you see it there.
lol
MrsMo
20th January 2006, 08:54
Oh my! .. did I write that post!!
Office party.. got bored and then drunk and then.. well you see it there.
lol
Ah, that explains it - I had wondered. It's ok tho - all is forgiven, you're amongst friends.:)
Radical Ed
23rd January 2006, 14:44
I have no way to veryify this story - it is just something I heard on the radio this morning - but it left me feeling outraged.
Seems a man spoke out against a speed trap in his town at a community meeting. Stood up and told everyone they should ignore the changed speed zone (there was no reason for the change - no change in road conditions, no school or hospital nearby) then fight the tickets they received in court, overloading the court docket. He hoped to convince the town council that the speed trap needed to be gotten rid of.
After the meeting, he was approached by a lawyer and a police officer, who promptly wrote the man a ticket for inciting civil disobedience!
This country is founded on the priciples of freedom of expression and the first things America's founding fathers did were acts of civil disobedience! I find it outrageous that we've passed laws against standing up in public and trying to get others to take action against something you believe is wrong. This isn't a matter of public safety or inciting to riot - he didn't incite people to use excessive speed or pick up arms and go storm the city hall - and if he's a crack pot and the speed trap actually has a use (other than raising funds for the city's coffers) the other citizens can ignore him.
So, tell me what you think...dis is easy jus make no number on car police cant say who u is but if u get police then make pay with moneys dollar is good 4 dis sometime get hit but dis is normal
Rikku
23rd January 2006, 15:09
Wise words there Mr Ed...not!
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