So , do you like Christmass ?

[Kitz E Kat]

Me I hate it !
Now I ain't a scrooge type dude, but I just get pissed off at the "we all must be happy cos it's christmass" type vibe that does the round's at said time!

Why can't people just be happy cos it's Thursday ?
Ain't that enough ?
I also hate new year's eve, why I should get all excited cos tomorrow is Jan 1st is well beyond me, it's just another day , it may be a good day or a crap one, just cos it's the 1st of Jan don't mean jack shit !

The ad's are on the radio, the crap shit is in the shop's, for the next month I will have to endure the "yippie christmass is coming" crap .
I won't be able to go shop in peace, I won't be able to get a bar stool in peace , I won't be able to turn on a radio without having to listen to all this "yippie christmass is coming" crap . Lucky I don't watch TV !
Christmass is crap .....

Before I end my rant , why can't people just enjoy today ?
What is it with people that we all have to "look forward" to some event ?
WTF is wrong with today that we all have to "look forward" to something ?
Beat's me !

One about to be well pissed off kat for the next month , i'll just hide where I am and it will all go away :-)

Is it just me ??

[Rikku]

I hate christmas...we just go on holiday each year...this year off to ireland! see yall there :p

[MrsMo]

:114: Well, picture me embarrassed because I love Christmas. It's a carry-over from when I was a kid. Even though we couldn't afford expensive presents, there were always lots of little things under the tree for my sisters and myself (yes, there were years when we got underwear wrapped in festive paper). It didn't matter, the anticipation was wonderful. :026: As I got older I loved finding special things for friends and family that I thought they would enjoy. I get the same sense of anticipation, only from the giving perspective. :eusa_danc I enjoy the colored lights; I even like the music. :020:

Now, the stores putting up decorations before Halloween makes me crazy and I hate the shopping frenzy, but I avoid those by looking for presents all year long and setting them aside. Of course, shopping on the internet simplified that part even more. I don't go over my budget because I shop sales and look for something that is special, not necessarily expensive. Some years the majority of my shopping is done by July!

It would be nice if the feeling of fellowship for one's fellow man was apparent year round, but I'm glad that there's at least one time a year when people are moved to help the less fortunate. It could be worse if there was NO time when people felt moved to extend a hand to others. I'm sorry that some people don't have the same enthusiasm for Christmas that I have and the Christmas frenzy upsets them, but I refuse to put on a sad/somber face because there are Scrooges out there frowning at me and saying "Bah, humbug!"

[Kitz E Kat]

God I hate the music Mrs Mo , it drive's me mad !
And I hate seeing people I never see all year round telling me to have a "happy christmass" like they give a feck, they don't it's soooooooo false, that really annoy's the hell out of me.

I visit an old people's home pretty regular, it's pretty rare to see any visitor's till , you guessed , christmass day, they don't visit all year just this one lousy day , it's just to make them feel better not the patient.

It's crass, it's over commercialised, it's naked greed, it's a pain in the butt !
Aside from that I really don't have a problem with it :-)

[Miss Rikku]

christmas? dont talk to me about christmas!!!

i hate it for the following reasons;

1. i dont believe in god/jesus, and so i feel like a total hipocrite celebrationg something which has no relevance to me at all
2. its become commercialised.... its cliched, its materialistic, its all about me, me, me... call me cynical, but people only give to get back!!!
3. shops that get the "xmas" stock in 2 days after halloween.... you can see the masses... people flocking to them, their little eyes shimmering with anticipation "ohhh, its christmas!!! how exciting!!!"
4. my mum always goes on overdrive, trying to get the house in order....BUT WHY????
5. why would you want to put a tree in your sitting room?
6. the thought of some fat old man rooting around in my bedroom.
7. some actual fat old man masquerading as santa waving a bell at me in the street.... it happens every year!!!

oh there are so many more, but its making me mad to think of them...

[MrsMo]

God I hate the music Mrs Mo , it drive's me mad !
And I hate seeing people I never see all year round telling me to have a "happy christmass" like they give a feck, they don't it's soooooooo false, that really annoy's the hell out of me.

I visit an old people's home pretty regular, it's pretty rare to see any visitor's till , you guessed , christmass day, they don't visit all year just this one lousy day , it's just to make them feel better not the patient.

It's crass, it's over commercialised, it's naked greed, it's a pain in the butt !
Aside from that I really don't have a problem with it :-)Oh Kitz, you would HATE it around here before Christmas. I don't just listen to the music, I sing it! LOL D just grins and bears it (I didn't say I sang it well) -- but he says he must be doing something right if I'm singing.

It is sad that people don't go visit their elderly relatives more often, that it takes something out of the ordinary to drag them out of their normal routine to grudgingly go down to visit Grandma or Grandpa, but at least there IS something special to make them do it. Otherwise the old folks would never see a familiar face once they've been warehoused in one of those places (Did you see the news about the one old folks home in Ireland that has opened a pub on the premises? Suddenly the old folks have someplace to go, don't spend as much time in their rooms AND they're getting more visitors).

Yes, Christmas is crass and over-commercialized. I simply don't allow that to interfere with MY Christmas. I avoid stores as much as possible after Halloween and refuse to participate in the whole greed frenzy. I stopped "exchanging" gifts with my family almost 20 years ago.
christmas? dont talk to me about christmas!!!

i hate it for the following reasons;

1. i dont believe in god/jesus, and so i feel like a total hipocrite celebrationg something which has no relevance to me at all
2. its become commercialised.... its cliched, its materialistic, its all about me, me, me... call me cynical, but people only give to get back!!!
3. shops that get the "xmas" stock in 2 days after halloween.... you can see the masses... people flocking to them, their little eyes shimmering with anticipation "ohhh, its christmas!!! how exciting!!!"
4. my mum always goes on overdrive, trying to get the house in order....BUT WHY????
5. why would you want to put a tree in your sitting room?
6. the thought of some fat old man rooting around in my bedroom.
7. some actual fat old man masquerading as santa waving a bell at me in the street.... it happens every year!!!
You don't have to participate in the religious ceremonies, you can still enjoy the lights and decorations. Also, even with the religious themes, some of the Christmas music is truely beautiful and awe inspiring from the aspect of what a human mind can create and human voices can produce.

The greed factor is undeniable, but again you don't have to participate. I stopped "exchanging" gifts with my family decades ago. If we find something special that makes us think of the recipient that's great. If not, oh well, Merry Christmas anyway.

Your Mom probably goes into a cleaning overdrive for the same reason I do. It makes me feel good. I love the way the house looks when it's sparkling clean and I'm proud to have people in the house when it looks that way. However, I am undoubtedly one of the worst housekeepers around. So when I get the house in shape, I'm even prouder of the effect.

I've heard a story that makes me love having the tree in my livingroom. (Besides the fact that I like the colors and think it's pretty). I was told that a very drunk Martin Luther saw a tree in the woods, covered in snow and sparkling in the moonlight, and thought it was so beautiful he cut it down and took it home to share with his family. The story makes me laugh and I think it's a great way to start a tradition -- to cover the fact that the founder of a religious sect liked to drink.

Fat old man rooting around in your bedroom?!? Wow, you have different customs than WE have! Santa sneaks in the living room and THAT'S IT. If there were a real Santa, he would have to worry about all us American's armed to the teeth with our guns! LOL One wrong room and "KABOOM!" No more Santa!

As for the fat old bell ringers... if everyone were generous year round, there wouldn't be a need to have them. Sadly people aren't generous and don't think of the less fortunate unless there's something special to remind them. At least there IS one time a year when people will "dig deep" and try to help others. I fear that without Christmas it just wouldn't happen.

So, I'm sitting here, grinning like a kid and I can't wait for my sisters to get their presents this year. I made the presents and think they will love them. I think the season is what you make of it and I make a effort to make it into what it should be, even if my efforts only affect myself and my family. *sigh* I LOVE Christmas :D

[Rikku]

I've heard a story that makes me love having the tree in my livingroom. (Besides the fact that I like the colors and think it's pretty). I was told that a very drunk Martin Luther saw a tree in the woods, covered in snow and sparkling in the moonlight, and thought it was so beautiful he cut it down and took it home to share with his family. The story makes me laugh and I think it's a great way to start a tradition -- to cover the fact that the founder of a religious sect liked to drink.


That man again! What a fool...its like "wow that's a real nice tree...I'm gonna cut it down and kill it and watch it decay in my house its so nice!" What a fucking fruit loop!!


...some of the Christmas music is truely beautiful and awe inspiring from the aspect of what a human mind can create and human voices can produce.


You have to be kidding!?!? Nothing like a bit of Slayer at christmas...


Fat old man rooting around in your bedroom?!? Wow, you have different customs than WE have! Santa sneaks in the living room and THAT'S IT. If there were a real Santa, he would have to worry about all us American's armed to the teeth with our guns! LOL One wrong room and "KABOOM!" No more Santa!


Yeah that's the English for ya...Santa is a peado...(man I could write a new christmas number 1 for Slayer there...)
The giving of gifts is something I don't really take part in...yeah call me a tight arse whatever...but I might get something for Miss Rikku if she is lucky, else I might feel bad for months :p

[Daremo]

Sorry -- gotta put in my 2-pence worth....

IMHO - mine and mine alone - flame me if you will....

The people who gripe about Christmas, holidays in particular, and society and it's annoying ways in general -- as a group, in general terms, have never experienced true adversity in their life and are whiney babies who want attention. (Ma - I don' wannnnaaa)

Try spending Christmas in a wet oozy hole waiting to kill someone 10,000 miles from your home. Try running like hell after you do kill the poor sod so that his friends don't catch you and do all sorts of inventive and painful things to your anatomy.

Try spending Christmas fighting for your life as 600 trained men with mortars, automatic weapons and all sorts of explosive and deadly things attack your position, and you, and only about 80 others, are there to try and stop them from killing all of you.

Try spending Christmas patrolling the perimeter of your base not knowing if an enemy will shoot you, you'll step on a mine and get your legs blown off or some other nasty thing will happen to you.

Don't like the Christmas music -- How about being in Saigon in 1975 knowing that if you hear "White Christmas" on the Armed Forces radio that you have to run as fast as you can to the Embassy because the final assault is under way and they're evacuating all troops. If you miss the last transport -- it's just you and 25,000 North Vietnamese Regulars sharing a small dinner and you're the main course.

Don't like Christmas Food -- Try having the same Christmas dinner I had in 1969 -- cold ham and lima beans from a can dated 1944. The elegant surroundings: A wet oozy hole. The family I shared it with: 8 other Jarheads, my Brothers. Our After Dinner Gift Sharing: Dry socks. Our evenings fun: Get past 20 miles of enemy patrols before we could get back to the firebase and relative safety.

I'm living on borrowed time, I could've died a thousand times in a thousand unpleasant ways. I've layed on the ground and heard bullets goung through the leaves above me so thick and fast it sounded like rain and cut the leaves from the trees which fell in a green rain all over me. I've been in firefights where only myself and 4 other Marines lived to tell the tale, all enemies and all others were killed. We were outnumbered 6 to 1 and the enemy overran the base and at the last we were fighting with knives and machetes because we had no more ammunition but we killed every last one of them. I've been in firefights with copters circling overhead and the 50-cal brass would come down from their machine guns, tinkling and sparkling like brass rain.

Don't whine to me about how rough you have it. The way I look at life if I have something to eat, a warm, dry place to sleep and no one is trying to kill me -- I'm in heaven and everything else is luxury. Most of the people on this planet don't have all three of those very basic things at the same time.

Think how fucking lucky you are that you can sit there and gripe. That your biggest bitch is that the music drives you mad or that Mom cleans up the house. By GOD!!! You have a Mom AND a house!!

You think yourself poor and abused but you live in one of the most technologically advanced countries on earth, you have enough that, by the standards of over 75% of all the people alive right now, you are considered rich beyond belief. You gripe because you don't like the music, you gripe because you don't like the commercialism, you gripe because you don't believe in God, you gripe, you gripe, you gripe.

Go ahead and gripe -- you have the right -- But remember that ability to gripe was given you by cold, hungry, lonely men, who gave up their Christmas at home and put themselves in harm's way and fought and died just so you could be a whiney baby. That's right -- men, real men, died so you can bitch about the music and the food -- men that believe that liberty is worth a life, even their own.

So when you sit down to a nice Christmas dinner, whether alone or with your family think about just what you've got and who gave it to you.

I'll leave you with this:

T'was the night before Christmas, he lived all alone,
In a one bedroom house made of plaster and stone.
I had come down the chimney with presents to give
And to see just who in this house did live.

As I looked all about, a strange sight did I see,
No tinsel, No presents, not even a tree.
No stocking by the fire, just boots filled with sand,
On a wall hung pictures of a far distant land.

With medals and badges, awards of all kinds,
A sobering thought soon came to my mind.
For this house was different, unlike any I'd seen,
This was the home of a U. S. MARINE.

I'd heard stories about them. I had to see more,
So I walked down the hall and pushed open the door.
And there he lay sleeping, silent, alone,
Curled up on the floor of his one bedroom home.

He seemed so gentle, his face so serene,
Not at all how I'd pictured A U. S. MARINE.
Was this the hero of whom I'd just read,
Curled up in his poncho, a floor for his bed?

His head was clean shaven, his weathered face tan,
and I soon understood, this was more than a man.
For I realized the families I'd seen tonight,
Owed there lives to these men who were willing to fight.

Soon around the nation the children would play,
And grown ups would celebrate a bright Christmas day.
They all enjoyed freedom each month and all year,
Because of Marines like this one lying here.

I couldn't help but wonder, how many lay alone,
On a cold Christmas eve, in a land far from home.
Just the thought brought a prideful tear to my eye,
I dropped to my knees and I started to cry.

He must have awakened, for I heard a rough voice,
"Santa, don't cry, this life is my choice.
I fight for freedom, I don't ask for more,
My Life is my God, my Country, my Corps."

With that he rolled over, and drifted off to sleep,
I couldn't control it and continued to weep.
I watched him for hours, so silent and still,
I noticed he shivered from the cold night's chill.

I took off my jacket, the one made of red,
I covered this Marine from his toes to his head.
Then I put on his T-shirt of scarlet and gold,
with eagle globe and anchor emblazoned so bold.

Though it barely fit me, I swelled with pride,
For one shining moment, I was Marine Corps deep iinside.
I didn't want to leave him, so quiet in the night,
This guardian of honor, so willing to fight.

But half asleep he rolled over and in a voice so clean and pure,
Said "Carry on Santa, It's Christmas day and the country's secure."
One look at my watch and I knew he was right,
Merry Christmas, my friend, Semper Fi and Good Night.

[Kitz E Kat]

Go ahead and gripe -- you have the right -- But remember that ability to gripe was given you by cold, hungry, lonely men, who gave up their Christmas at home and put themselves in harm's way and fought and died just so you could be a whiney baby. That's right -- men, real men, died so you can bitch about the music and the food -- men that believe that liberty is worth a life, even their own.
I ain't a whiney baby! I just don't like Christmass ....
I can't equate your fighting in a war and making a great personal sacrifice ( potentially your life ) so that I must like christmass , many people like you fought for the right for people to have the freedom to have a choice.

I choose not to like christmass, this is hardly a two finger's up to those that fought for freedom!
I don't like christmass music, this is hardly a two finger's up to those that fought for freedom , I am sure many Vietnam vet's don't like christmass music.

God, you gripe, you gripe, you gripe.

I just don't like christmass ! I am a happy person, I enjoy the little I have, I like life, I like most thing's about life, I don't gripe all the time.

Don't whine to me about how rough you have it.
I never whined about how rough I have it ????

Think how fucking lucky you are that you can sit there and gripe. That your biggest bitch is that the music drives you mad or that Mom cleans up the house. By GOD!!! You have a Mom AND a house!!


I just though id do a post about how I did not really like christmass, like a lot of people I know, it can be a very hard time for a lot of people, there is a lot of pressure on people that can ill afford it.

Finally and lastly here , I really don't think you have to go to fight in a war to have the right to like or dislike something.

Thanks for everything, good luck !

[Rikku]

ok Im with Kitz for the most part, I just plain dont like christmas...but I can see how much it can mean to a fine bloke like yourself Daremo...I'm not saying your wrong at all...but I guess I have never been through the kinda things you have so I dont realise how lucky i am having somewhere warm and safe ya know...you are a truly respectable dude

[Daremo]

Just trying to push a few buttons -- You of course have the privilege to dislike whatever you will. Notice I said 'privilege' and not 'right'. I honestly believe that there is no such thing as 'rights'. Nothing is guaranteed to you. So-called 'rights' are just privileges that have been granted by governments - and can be revoked. Think I'm wrong? Then think about the changes to personal liberty since 9/11. Hell, I even gotta take my shoes off and allow myself to be subjected to the indignity of a search because some jackass hijacked a plane. I don'r even fit the 'description of the suspect' - I'm about as white as you can get and still be alive. I look nothing like an Islamic terrorist.

My point with the last post was actually with disaffected youth. You see where I work there are a number of 'generation X' types. Goth little yuppling without a single brain cell. I was just listening to a group of these early-twenties, anti-establishment, individuals (who all dress alike) complain how incredibly rough their little lives were. Most of them still live at home and sponge off Dad and are guaranteed a dinner and a warm bed. The posts in this thread just caused the reaction you saw because I was primed by listening to that BS at work.

I just think that those who complain about a rough life generally don't know what rough is. Now don't think that I've had it really rough -- I haven't. There's poor guys that spent 15 years in POW camps, who were tortured and still kept faith and believed in their friends and their country. There are men who were horribly disfigured or crippled and have fought to obtain as normal a life as posssible. Who everyday experience great pain but live each day as a celebration of life. Those are true heros, not I.

[Rikku]

Heeeeey...me and Miss Rikku are goth! :eek:

[=BB=]

Do I like Christmas? Well, as a child I loved Christmas at my grandparent’s house. The smells (fresh cut tree and food, food, food), and the sights, bubbling light decorations, angel hair and a big pile of mysterious wrapped gifts! For sure, it was a ton of fun.

I ceased being "religious" more than 40 years ago. As lazy Zen Buddhist/ atheists, we always gave our daughter "No-Xmas" gifts in December, just so she would feel as loved as her Christian friends. Now this year we will decorate a large Buddha and maybe a Bodhi Tree - and connect the traditional Buddhist belief that his enlightenment occurred in December - with the pseudo Christian holiday (actually pre-Christian and pagan) - so my 2-year-old granddaughter can have the fun of lights, decorations and good food at Grandma and Grandpa's place.

Soooo - used to love the trappings of Xmas, then found it false and cloying, and now think that anything that even pretends to promote "Peace On Earth, Goodwill Toward Men" - can't be all bad.

Merry Everything Cheers!

[duder]

...I was told that a very drunk Martin Luther saw a tree in the woods,

That man again! What a fool...its like "wow that's a real nice tree...


just wanted to point out that these are two ENTIRELY different people ;)

just to prevent confusion on someone with maybe a little less knowledge on the religion/personal rights portion of history.

martin luther == main player in the 'Reformation' in Europe couple centuries ago

martin luther king jr == the man who died for a cause he greatly belived in (civil rights) a couple of decades ago

(and also, just for the record, martin luther did also die, though atm i can't recall if it was because of his 'views on things')

hope this clears up some confusion,

peace,

duder

[Rikku]

Ahh, cheers for that...doesnt stop him being a fool though :p hehehe

[Kitz E Kat]

Just trying to push a few buttons -- You of course have the privilege to dislike whatever you will. Notice I said 'privilege' and not 'right'. I honestly believe that there is no such thing as 'rights'.

What about the "bill of right's" ?
I have the right to freedom, freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc. These are not a "privilege" this my right, I demand these right's and expect them.
We have a constitution that protect's these right's.
Should the government of the day curb these right's, I have recourse to the court's.The government has attempted to curb some right's and failed as it was in breach of the constitution.
Anything less than this is not a democratic society.

Nothing is guaranteed to you. So-called 'rights' are just privileges that have been granted by governments - and can be revoked. Think I'm wrong? Then think about the changes to personal liberty since 9/11. Hell, I even gotta take my shoes off and allow myself to be subjected to the indignity of a search because some jackass hijacked a plane. I don'r even fit the 'description of the suspect' - I'm about as white as you can get and still be alive. I look nothing like an Islamic terrorist.

No one has any "right's" when entering a contract, you may have "expectation's" but not right's. You don't even have a "privilage" just an expectation. Airline's and the part of government that interact's with the airline industry has the right to introduce whatever security they wish. You may not like it , but this is not a breach of one's "right's" just an alteration of one's expectation's.
You may expect free passage through an airport, you have no right to such.
This is not a reduction of one's right's.


My point with the last post was actually with disaffected youth.

I am 40 +

You see where I work there are a number of 'generation X' types. Goth little yuppling without a single brain cell. I was just listening to a group of these early-twenties, anti-establishment, individuals (who all dress alike) complain how incredibly rough their little lives were.

That's a function of youth!


I just think that those who complain about a rough life generally don't know what rough is. Now don't think that I've had it really rough -- I haven't. There's poor guys that spent 15 years in POW camps, who were tortured and still kept faith and believed in their friends and their country. There are men who were horribly disfigured or crippled and have fought to obtain as normal a life as posssible. Who everyday experience great pain but live each day as a celebration of life. Those are true heros, not I.

Rough is scalable.
A blind and deaf man telling a blind man he is "lucky" because he is "only blind" is rather futile.
Your experience is just that, it's "your" experience.
Our life's are based on what "we" experience, and in small part that of other's.
People commit suicide over what some may call a trivial issue, but to them it was a burden they could not carry any longer, to them this was true.

We react to the situation we find ourselves in , our perspective is based on the situation we are presently in, not on the experience of some other individual in a different situation.
This is normal human behaviour.
It's not either normal or practical to expect people to base their live's on the life of other individual's experience.
While one may have sympathy with the plight of other's this in no way reduce's the impact of a given situation which an indivdual may face at a given time.
To expect any different is unrealistic.

[Rikku]

I am 40 +


Never! :D I wouldnt put you down as a day over 30! hehe

[Daremo]

What about the "bill of right's" ?
I have the right to freedom, freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc. These are not a "privilege" this my right, I demand these right's and expect them.
We have a constitution that protect's these right's.
Should the government of the day curb these right's, I have recourse to the court's.The government has attempted to curb some right's and failed as it was in breach of the constitution.
Anything less than this is not a democratic society.These are not really 'rights'. There is no Divine Being or Force of Nature or Law of Physics that enforces this 'right'. The Bill of Rights is just the first 5 amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America, as such they are subject to change and even repeal by the Congress subject to ratification by the states. The are *NOT* in any way, shape or form actual 'rights' -- they are privileges that may be revoked.

It would be highly unlikely for them to be revoked, but it is possible and methods are in place to do just that. Additionally the exact definition of 'free speech and the other privileges you mentioned is continually being updated and redefined by the Supreme Court. Free Speech is not the popular concept that you can say anything you want -- there is slander, libel, false reports to authorities, disturbing the peace and many more limitatons on your 'Free Speech'. So the courts placing limitations on your privileges is something that happens fairly regularly. These privileges are slowly being eroded. We have less privileges than our grandfathers had. The Brady Bill, the Patriot Act and other types of privilege eroding legislation take away parts of our privileges in the interest of 'National Defense' or 'Public Security and Safety'. It is even possible for the Government to declare Martial Law and suspend *ALL* privileges.

No, my friend, these are not rights, if they were then another man could not take them from us.

And I want everyone to remember that all of these privileges were bought and paid for by the blood of patriots and the lives of heros.

[Kitz E Kat]

This is why I efing hate Christmass, tonight I go to my local store, like I do most night's.
Well it's full of moron's that normally would be in bed, but the twat's are running around like headless chicken's doin Christmass shopping.

OK, I can cope with that, but what I can't cope with , what is really efing buging me right now , the damm store is sold out of salted peanuts :-(

Fuck Christmass !

[Daremo]

Kitz my dear and real friend....

I have a lage bag of salted peanuts and another of salted cashews near me right now and I most heartily wish that you, and many of my other friends on this forum, were nearby to share them.

I would love to show you my town and hear stories of yours. To sit with you and share an Arrogant Bastard or a Guiness.

Merry Christmas, my friend.

[Kitz E Kat]

Dude just PM me some salted peanut's and your god :-)

[TreeFrog]

Kitz my dear and real friend....

I have a lage bag of salted peanuts and another of salted cashews near me right now and I most heartily wish that you, and many of my other friends on this forum, were nearby to share them.

I would love to show you my town and hear stories of yours. To sit with you and share an Arrogant Bastard or a Guiness.

Merry Christmas, my friend.

That sounds like rocking chair talk to me. And you US people do make good rocking chairs.
When we go to Kits E Kats local for the free drink bring some of the nuts oK.

Seems to be a shortage here as here they are out of the Hony ones I like.

[SyntaxHeir]

Kitz my dear and real friend....

I have a lage bag of salted peanuts and another of salted cashews near me right now and I most heartily wish that you, and many of my other friends on this forum, were nearby to share them.

I would love to show you my town and hear stories of yours. To sit with you and share an Arrogant Bastard or a Guiness.

Merry Christmas, my friend.

That my very well be the best damned holiday greeting I've ever heard.

Merry Christmas to all ye merry bastards and blaggards on Daremo.org.

[Rikku]

Aww, isnt it all merry and cute...can't you bring the rocking chair and your nuts out to Dublin...theres 3 of us here allready! :p

[Daremo]

I would except they won't let me bring my Valkyrie 1800cc with me. How'm I supposed to cruise Dublin town without my putt?

Beside Mrs Mo would be unhappy if I took my nuts to Dublin and didn't bring her along as well.

[Kitz E Kat]

You and Mrs Mo are welcome here anytime , and Pixie Devil ( where the hell is Pixie? Hope all is good ) .
Anyway's I got the nut problem sorted to an extent, I had to get them stupid "healthy" nut's the one's with lousy sea salt.
Not the same thing, but I will survive :-)

I want proper Jimmy Carter peanut's with lot's of real salt :-)

However, I got load's of beer, my Amazon order came through today, three tasty book's on telecommunications and I got lot's of Kat fud , life is good :-)

Me and Kitty wan't for nothing :-)

Yup, life is good !

[SyntaxHeir]

This guy doesn't much care for Christmas, or so I gather.

http://www.fuckchristmas.org/

[TreeFrog]

One messy artical. I just stoped reading it so I could get on with my christmas. lol

@Daremo.
Now that is an interesting bike .. Such a shame Ireland is so wet and cold and expencive for bikes. Something like that would be just wasted here..


Post a pic please. (p.a.p.p. ... lol)